Ep27 Karen Theimer - Using Breathwork to Heal and Reignite Your Inner Fire

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Patricia Lindner
Hello and welcome to another episode of Magnificence, the One and Only Empowerment podcast that strikes image and shines the light on your magnificence and especially on the magnificence of my amazing guests. And today I have with me the amazing and magnificent Karen Theimer. Hello and welcome to the show, Karen.

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Karen Theimer
Hello, Patricia. Thank you for the warm welcoming and thank you for having me on your podcast today. This is exciting.

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Patricia Lindner
I am excited as well and I can't wait to dive into the conversation. Before we do that, Karen. I would love to introduce you to the audience just a little bit about who you are, and then we can talk about the details and the deep stuff in the conversation. So Karen is a freedom coach who is helping her clients to find more freedom in the movement of the body, their physical health and their career.

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Patricia Lindner
Through her conscious Breathwork sessions and I experienced one. She helps people reduce stress, reduce pain, connect to the breath, gain a sharp and focus, improved various respiratory function and enhanced spiritual as well as psychological growth. I want to talk about that because I was so impressed. And so if I left out anything that you are all about, please, please tell me, Karen, is there anything that I am missed out on?

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Karen Theimer
I think you pretty much said it all. I mean, I where I do many different things, but one of the things I do is I help people build confidence and trust in themselves as well as everything else you mentioned. So, yeah.

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Patricia Lindner
Beautiful, beautiful. And you know, the interesting thing and I share about your magnificence also through the lens of human design, and I was really amazed by something that I saw in your chart when I prepared for our conversation, because it goes hand in hand with what I experienced in your breathwork session. And I think that is amazing because I can share firsthand what it did to me and you can share how you came across Breathwork and maybe and I never did that before.

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Patricia Lindner
Maybe if you allow me to, I would love to start with the chart and go from there.

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Karen Theimer
Yeah, absolutely. That would be great, because that's a refresher for me, too, from when you when you did my chart. So thank you.

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Patricia Lindner
Okay, so this is your human design chart. And I most of the time don't talk about the general things. And as you said, we had a reading together. So I thought it would be amazing to focus on some specifics. And just for those who just get to know a human design, I never saw a human design chart before.

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Patricia Lindner
There are some general bits and pieces of information and I need to always figure out what do I bring forth? What do I share? What do I focus on in this short amount of time that we have together? And so I delve into your channels and you can see the channels and some of the channels, channels, all those lines between centers.

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Patricia Lindner
And for anyone who is not so experienced in human design, the centers like the Triangle or the square or the circle, they stand for an energetic center with deeper information about the person, about people in general, and then in specific, when it comes to a specific chart and I looked into through the channel 952, which is down there, and I hope that you and the audience can see that well, it connects the root.

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Patricia Lindner
This is the square at the bottom of the body graph and the sacral, because I found it really outstanding. And I think I never talked about that before. Maybe that's why I was drawn to it. It is the channel of concentration and yes, so it is the channel of concentration, which is a design of determination and what it says is just in on a surface level, not in the depth that I could share about it.

00:04:59:01 - 00:05:57:06
Patricia Lindner
It is all about using your focus in order to improve and make a difference in people's life. And so I thought that is so, so accurate because I need to share that. I never, ever had a breathwork session before and it was a bit even nervous to do that. And what I experienced was a Karen, It was so focused bringing a focused energy to the session, and that is what this, this is all about bringing focus to groups, bringing focus to anyone you work with because you radiate this energy of concentration and focus so that the world around you, the people around you, they totally feel this presence of someone who is focused and that

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Patricia Lindner
helps them with their focus. And so I need to say that's what it did for me. Yeah.

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Karen Theimer
Which is pretty funny because growing up I struggled with focus. So it's funny. It's interesting to listen to you saying all this about me because I'm like, Wow, I really come a long way. Because before if people were to label me, they totally call me A.D.D. or ADHD or something, right? Because I didn't know how to focus. Yeah, and I've worked a lot on that.

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Karen Theimer
So that's awesome that, that that's what you're seeing and what you're picking up. And I feel the same. Like I feel like I have been able to focus a lot better than I used to. So it's interesting you're bringing that up and all around the human design. So very cool.

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Patricia Lindner
And the interesting thing now that you mention it and I need to share that for everyone who has this channel or even the gate that comes from the root, the root. So the bottom center is something that you can imagine as a center of energy that is pulsating and it could stop sending all the information for a while.

00:07:08:24 - 00:07:32:17
Patricia Lindner
That could be for an hour, that could be for half a day, that could be maybe four, even days or longer. And when this takes place, which is like a natural rhythm of pulsation, then you could feel like, I can't focus. I can't concentrate on the work that is just for any gate that is connected to the root.

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Patricia Lindner
And maybe this is when you experienced phases of not being that focused or not being so concentrated. And the secret in that is just seeing things really positively. You know, that you have this channel, you know that you are gifting focus to people around you. And when you are not in this phase of being concentrated or focused, then just take a day off, go out into nature, withdraw, relax, replenish, just acceptance is the key to that.

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Karen Theimer
And is giving ourselves permission. Yeah, right. Like if you're having a day like it's out, if you're having a day or nothing, like everything, it's just nothing's going right then. Or maybe it is going right. Divided divine. What right is right. However, then it's like, okay, maybe I just need to surrender and just take a day for myself, right?

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Karen Theimer
Or for yourself, whoever that is. Right? Because it's important to do that. And we're so taught, you know, at a very young age that we have if we're not busy, we're lazy. And I know where that comes from, right? So that's what I believe. Anyway.

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Patricia Lindner
I think that is such an important message you share. So even for anyone who does not have this root connection to focus, I think that is an invitation to freedom. And that's what you're all about. It is an invitation to really honor the natural cycles, the emotions, just the way it goes. Maybe this is like a movement up and down and waves, and this is life, isn't it?

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Karen Theimer
Yeah. And, you know, as we're talking, since we're on the topic of focus to find breath, focus is. Yeah, right. Like what is focus? What's what's focus to you? It could be different for me too, you know, different to other people in the audience. Right? Focus could be like, can I pay attention for 5 minutes or 5 seconds?

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Karen Theimer
That can be focus, right? Exactly. Yeah. What is focus?

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Patricia Lindner
Right. I love that. And that brings me back to your amazing Breathwork session and I need to share. And that is it's such an honor that I had a breathwork session with you that I experienced breathwork and that I need to share. And I sent your message that since the day you did breathwork with me, I tried to continuously do breathwork on my own.

00:10:09:24 - 00:10:45:15
Patricia Lindner
And maybe take some more sessions with you because I guess and I bet there are varieties that you can do and variations of breathwork for whatever you need it. What it does to me, it is really enhancing my capacity to breathe. It helps me reduce the stress level and it moves me. And that was an and I really would love to hear from you all about Breathwork because for me, something strange happened.

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Karen Theimer
And.

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Patricia Lindner
Doing Breathwork takes me just let's say after ten, 15 minutes into a state that I never experienced before, that is a bit scary. But then when you let go of control and trust that you are safe, then it opens up my inner eye to I'd say it's like a kaleidoscope of images and it feels like me floating through the universe.

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Patricia Lindner
And I don't know what this is all about. And so you are the specialist. You are the expert. I would love to invite you to talk about breathwork, how you experience it, why you started it, and what is the strange thing that is going on with me that I really love? Well, I.

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Karen Theimer
Think in life, you know, we've been so programed growing up, right? And, you know, we take on other people's beliefs of way life should be right. However, when we start going on a journey of I'm like, for me, it was in 2018 when I'm going on a healing journey after having had cancer and going through divorce and all this, right?

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Karen Theimer
And then we start bringing pieces of ourselves back to us. The more we go on this journey, it's like, Let's find out who we truly are, because we really most people don't even know who they are, right? I'm still learning who I am, right? And what Breathwork does. Like I got introduced to it when I went to a retreat and doing plant medicine.

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Karen Theimer
There was a gentleman there who did Breathwork and when I was the first time I did it, I was kind of like, I don't know if I trust this. This is weird. This is like stirring up stuff that I don't really like that I buried a long time. However, you know, the facilitator, Giovanni, was like, just like, just breathe.

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Karen Theimer
Just like, bring down your breath. Right? Like you're safe. Reminding me I'm safe, right? Because we get into this state of not feeling safe, and we don't even know what that is, right? So I was like, okay. However, for me, I learned that people I saw people release trauma. I saw people like heavy duty trauma. I saw people let go of things that were keeping them.

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Karen Theimer
Stock addiction. I've seen people heal addiction. And, you know, in different sessions that I've been in. So the first time I did it, it made me a little bit nervous because, again, it's trusting and it's letting go of control. I've been in control my entire life, right? Because it keeps you safe. So as time went on, I just started learning how to trust, how to trust in myself, how to trust in the process, how to trust to let go of things that aren't serving me anymore, that are keeping me stuck.

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Karen Theimer
And what again, what Breathwork does is it taps into that deeper emotion that we bury so much, right? When people say, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. Really. No, what you've done is you buried that emotion deep in your gut. Welcome to digestive issues. Right? So as like I mentioned as before, like, just as time went on, I just really it helped me learn how to trust in myself, learn how to trust in that.

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Karen Theimer
The process, build confidence, you know? And then I thought, well, why am I just doing this for me? Why not take a course in this and become a breathwork facilitator so I can help others let go of their past and hold a safe space for them to allow them and give them permission to do that as well and didn't have them so and breaths everything is breath, right?

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Karen Theimer
Because when you're feeling anxiety or stressed out, your brain's not thinking of like, I've got to do this and got to do that, and your body on a physiological way is not thinking, I got to digest, I got a heel, it's going, I'm being chased by a bear. I got to run. However, if we pause for a second and just do some slow breathing, we calm down the nervous system, then we're able to think again and and also help our body.

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Karen Theimer
That's the short version.

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Patricia Lindner
Absolutely. Absolutely. And just when I listen to you saying that everything is breath, I realized that for me and this is like a vulnerable and own chair, it is much easier for me to breathe in and hold breath just breathing in. But it is really hard to entirely breathe out, let go.

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Karen Theimer
And control.

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Patricia Lindner
And this this is the hardest where anxiety or a loss of control sets in. It's like, what's going on with my body? That is so strange. And you never, ever experience that in everyday life because oftentimes breathing is shallow. There is no focus to be back at the focus topic. And so I so much appreciate that you introduce me to this Breathwork magic.

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Patricia Lindner
I want to call it magic. And I don't know if you ever experienced things like I said, like seeing pictures, like a kaleidoscope of geometric figures just floating through my inner vision there.

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Karen Theimer
Yeah. And that's the thing with breath, right? Because you can get visions. I mean, I remember, you know, I went through a lot with my dad when I was a kid, and, you know, I had a vision one time. I don't know why I'm bringing this up, but apparently it's meant to come up, right? Like him. And I butted heads a lot growing up and that I.

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Karen Theimer
And then I had to learn, Well, look at how his life was growing up. Wasn't so great, Right? However. And then I had a vision of him and his dad walking when he was a little boy. Yeah, that was like and just walking down the street and just happy. And I was like, and trusting, like, why am I picking up on that?

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Karen Theimer
Because we carry lineage stuff. Yeah, right. I mean that's got, I could definitely talk more about but he was well yeah. Like it was just interesting like all that look at this right. I'm just having a vision of that I've had I get lots of visions or colors or shapes. I don't always know what it means, but it's just like, Wow, this is really cool.

00:17:15:20 - 00:17:48:03
Patricia Lindner
Yeah, it is. It is. Everyone should trade it out and should connect with you to be introduced to this amazing work. And so it sounds strange to call it work for me. It is healing is activating, it is letting go. It is expansion. It is amazing. So I could really create an ad around that, a commercial on Breathwork because I'm so impressed and I bet everyone can see that and can hear that.

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Patricia Lindner
You talked about your past a little bit and that is when something came to my mind that I want to share about your chart that I haven't shared with you before.

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Karen Theimer
Okay, Sure. Yeah. Thing about me, you know, it's important to learn like where we come from, what? What? Who are we? Right?

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Patricia Lindner
Yeah. And for you especially, that is relevant because you have this other channel down here. Okay? 1858 I don't want to talk about the channel, maybe a little bit about the channel. It is the channel of judgment. You could call it the channel of judgment. When someone really wants to or has this tendency to be a perfectionist when it comes to their own life, but also to improving other people's stuff.

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Patricia Lindner
So that is meant with judgment. It is really seeing mistakes or wanting to improve to make it perfect. That is what the whole channel is about. And as you see 18 and that's what I really want to focus on is up here as this number in your conscious son and what that means, why this is so important. The conscious sunshine bears a lot of information that is relevant for your life that really weighs a lot.

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Patricia Lindner
And Channel 18 is, yeah, know, Channel 18 is for someone who is here to complete the childhood, to really go into the past and figure out what can I let go of. That's just like, what am I here for? Courageous Only uncover wounds from the past and let go of old messages of old modeling to really figure out who you are that is just really specific to you.

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Karen Theimer
And.

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Patricia Lindner
Having this integrity, knowing who you are so that no judgment from the outside can touch you personally. And also having the knowingness that you never, ever need to walk that path alone because people will be there to accompany you. Should it be in a group, like you said, with plant medicine to uncover maybe old stuff that now can go or someone to have your back or someone to to just go with you through all that.

00:20:37:11 - 00:21:12:21
Patricia Lindner
And I find it really fascinating that this is your conscious son, Gate 18, as something that really is going back into the past and healing the past. And I don't wonder, because I know that you might want to agree to that, but I would love to know how does all of that really ring true for you and how does this influence the work you do?

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Karen Theimer
Wow. Yeah, you've hit the nail. That's exactly it. And it's interesting you brought up what did you say about perfection.

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Patricia Lindner
Though? It is some words are when you look at the whole channel, it is someone that is and that sounds so negative. You get everything, see, like black and white. But we are not here to see it. Black and white, black and white, right or wrong, true or false. It is like this channel of judgment makes you want to improve past stories, makes you want to improve everything that you do, makes you judge yourself.

00:21:51:03 - 00:21:58:08
Patricia Lindner
Because there is this perfectionist tendency in someone with this channel and this guide.

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Karen Theimer
18 Got it. Well, you know, when you when you ask for help with your guides, with your angels, with your team, it's amazing what shows up in your world. The answers are there all the time. So it's interesting that you brought up that because in the last few weeks I've been I've been in a funk, right? And generally I don't get into for very long.

00:22:20:07 - 00:22:40:08
Karen Theimer
It's kind of like, okay, here's my lesson and then what do I need to do? Move on? And I have my own tools to help me release it or I have people to help me, right? This one was like a good two, three weeks where I was just like down in the dumps and I'm just going like it just felt like a lot of work to just come back to me.

00:22:40:08 - 00:23:00:07
Karen Theimer
But I also allowed myself to go through whatever I was going through. And I was outside one day, the other day, and I was going for a walk and I just like, okay, Karen, Like I talk to little Karen all the time, right? Hey, Karen, you know what's going on and stuff. And then, you know, I went through whatever I need to go through, had some tears, and I'm like, okay, what's what do I need?

00:23:00:13 - 00:23:19:11
Karen Theimer
And then I heard this little voice that said, You don't have to be perfect. Yeah. And it just something switched in me where I was like, my God, I was being in that perfectionism, the judgment, all that. And I was like, I like what? I don't have to be perfect anymore. So it was interesting how that came out for me.

00:23:19:11 - 00:23:37:12
Karen Theimer
And then this morning I was doing some I was listening to something around tapping and it just everything is just lining up exactly what I needed because I'm asking for help and it's showing me. Right. So it was interesting you brought up that cause it's like, okay. It makes it all makes sense.

00:23:37:18 - 00:24:04:07
Patricia Lindner
It always makes sense. And it is such a good example. That's I'm going to record a session with just me talking about magnificence, and I just feel this is such a great example of magnificence because you just could go down the road and say, yeah, perfection is judgment, negative negativity, but you can always look at it from different perspective, from different angles.

00:24:04:09 - 00:24:38:02
Patricia Lindner
You can talk to your inner child as you do. And then there is this message you don't need to be perfect. That is just you can change everything. You always can decide a new. And I think that is knowing yourself and choosing what is in alignment with you, with your sanity, with your health, with your maybe inner and outer freedom.

00:24:38:04 - 00:24:50:20
Patricia Lindner
So I don't know how you see that, but I feel like this is such a good example that there is no good or bad in a child in a life. It is just point of view.

00:24:50:22 - 00:25:14:08
Karen Theimer
Yeah, and it's interesting. And I just I want to share this one thing because this is again, like, you know, you have to go through things to always know there's a gem on the other side, right? Like you don't have to live in in misery. We really don't. Right. And you know, it's like, okay, I know with this feeling of feeling crappy feels like.

00:25:14:08 - 00:25:31:17
Karen Theimer
Right? Like living in that survival, living in this. I don't know. When's this going to happen and when's that going to happen. And I this is the life I want, but this is where you're being shown of scarcity, right? So for me, this was part of what I was going through. Like, okay, I know what this feels like.

00:25:31:19 - 00:25:54:16
Karen Theimer
I know this feeling really well of feeling like crap around certain financial things and stuff like that, right? And then I was I was just what I went through, the perfectionism. I was like, okay, so I know what this feels like living in survival. What does it feel like to live in, well, abundance, thriving, freedom. What does that feel like?

00:25:54:16 - 00:26:14:05
Karen Theimer
And I was like going, I actually don't know. So I've been the last few days because this is all recent that I'm like, okay, well, what would it feel like? And I'm starting to get little pieces of that and I'm just like, this is what it feels like. So I'm excited to see what happens next, right? And I'll go to a breath work and release that.

00:26:14:05 - 00:26:35:16
Karen Theimer
But yeah, so it was just, I just wanted to share that because we know what this feels like, whatever that is for you. And who's ever watching too Well, what's the opposite? What would feeling good feel like? What would it feel like to not have pain? What would it feel like to be emotionally free and financially free and all that, do you think.

00:26:35:16 - 00:26:57:10
Patricia Lindner
About I love that you're asking questions because I feel like this is part of just being on this continuous journey of development, asking good questions. And you ask the question, I you know, I know what it feels like feeling crappy. And who does it mean?

00:26:57:11 - 00:27:01:06
Karen Theimer
It's like, yeah, we're humans having human experiences. Yeah.

00:27:01:06 - 00:27:38:10
Patricia Lindner
And it is just a lie to show up and say everything is just always light and love and everything is perfect for me. I think that is just. That is nonsense. Yeah. We always have something that shows up that might let us feel like crappy or stuck or how could I continue and then asking the question, Well, I'm really curious what that looks like and ask for what else is possible, because there is so much more that we can experience and so much more that can happen.

00:27:38:12 - 00:27:41:15
Patricia Lindner
And I love this openness of yours.

00:27:41:17 - 00:28:00:14
Karen Theimer
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's taken time to learn this. These are little tools and this is what I teach people in my programs too, right? So it's like how to get that awareness, have some tools for when you do get in that funk and breathwork allows you to let that go, right? It's all about letting go of things that doesn't serve you anymore.

00:28:00:14 - 00:28:05:10
Karen Theimer
Next, letting go is reasons why we have emotions and all that, right?

00:28:05:10 - 00:28:21:22
Patricia Lindner
So when you touched upon the work you do for other people, so I'm really curious what what does your work look like? What do you do for people who are kind of services do you offer? How do you guide them and where do you guide them to?

00:28:21:24 - 00:28:53:16
Karen Theimer
I help people find their magnificence. Yeah, exactly. I'm looking at people. That's right. That's right. So, no, what I do is I help people guide them through breathwork, through coaching, to help find their purpose and find build confidence and trust in this process and to also be aware of what I call the monkey mind that will take you on a trip and how to what this actually all means.

00:28:53:16 - 00:29:04:12
Karen Theimer
Right? So that's what I that's what I help coach people on is just more about awareness. Getting rid of those limiting beliefs, believing in themselves and and enjoying life, finding that joy again.

00:29:04:14 - 00:29:40:10
Patricia Lindner
Yeah. So what is it? I help people reach or discover their magnificence. And now you described it in detail. I feel like we really do a very similar work in our very individual way. So we are on the same path in a very different way. But with the similar goal or the same goal of letting people shine and get to know what else is possible for them and who they really are at the core of all of that.

00:29:40:10 - 00:30:15:19
Patricia Lindner
And I just have a question that I ask myself this morning. It's not a question, but I want to throw it into the conversation. I am on this constant journey of developing myself and my business and everything, and I just ask myself, maybe there is this kind of plan because it feels and I want to ask if this is true for you and if you have some things to share about that.

00:30:15:21 - 00:30:53:09
Patricia Lindner
I just caught myself as my background is being a teacher and teacher's trainer and I really studied psychology in depth and teaching others and dealing with teenagers. So I was the one who had high school kids at school and I really loved that. And then when I stopped doing that and started my business and did all the thousand apprenticeships that I said, I felt like, no, that was this phase in time where I was working with kids and now I'm into different phase.

00:30:53:11 - 00:31:27:10
Patricia Lindner
Now what I see is universe keeps calling me into kind of like kids and teenagers cool work at a very different level, but it is as if things were falling into place that everything that I experienced, everything that I have gone through, everything that I learned can be applied right here, right now.

00:31:27:12 - 00:31:28:17
Karen Theimer
For.

00:31:28:19 - 00:31:59:16
Patricia Lindner
The service of others and to make an impact. And you said something and I don't recall it. We want to push things and we want to figure out what does this look like? What is the next step now for me? And that was just it dawned on me this morning was like, I don't need to push anything anywhere because it is as if it comes around and it just takes me and it invites me.

00:31:59:18 - 00:32:03:05
Patricia Lindner
And I don't know if this is. What do you experience as well.

00:32:03:07 - 00:32:33:11
Karen Theimer
Yes, I'm learning to again, it's about surrendering, Right? Surrender or surrender? All my burdens, too, up there. Right. And and put me in front of the people where I can be of service and where I can get where I need to go next. And it really is surrendering. And that is not that I feel like it's getting a little easier because I've only started working on surrendering in a lot, like really surrendering in the last few months.

00:32:33:11 - 00:32:58:08
Karen Theimer
So it's it's challenging, right? And I do this thing that I've just started because I heard this today about, you know, saying to yourself, what? Here's a question. What would life look like if and then fill in the blank. What would like life look like if I whatever if I could go traveling, if I could go shopping, if I could buy whatever I want, if I could treat my friends, whatever.

00:32:58:08 - 00:33:09:06
Karen Theimer
Right. Like what would life look like if dot, dot, dot. So, yeah, say, like, it's just a round and then welcome it in. Right? Be aware of the sides.

00:33:09:08 - 00:33:11:14
Patricia Lindner
I like it. I like it. And so do I.

00:33:11:14 - 00:33:12:16
Karen Theimer
Like that one too.

00:33:12:18 - 00:33:44:02
Patricia Lindner
Yeah. That's just this little gem that everyone can practice who is listening to our conversation. I totally appreciate you sharing that. Well, I want to share your chart once again because something came up in the conversation outside. So to three, five, ten things. So that that is my manifesting generator monkey mind. I don't know what to talk about first because I want to talk about everything.

00:33:44:04 - 00:34:19:09
Patricia Lindner
I want to cover everything. But what really stands out again, you said it's surrender. And when you said it's about surrendering to life then and today this is really all about channels. I want to talk about Channel 1762. It is not the channel of surrender. It connects the thinking mind with the throat, with manifesting things. And at first sight, it does not look like it has to do with surrendering.

00:34:19:11 - 00:34:53:15
Patricia Lindner
It's the channel of acceptance, though, and this is so. Wow, spot on what you just said. And we did not talk about what I am going to say in this show. It is this rare mental ability of yours of seeing the whole picture, this bigger picture, without getting bogged down by details. So you need facts before you speak, but you are not bogged down by details.

00:34:53:15 - 00:35:32:05
Patricia Lindner
You see this big picture and now it comes. The most amazing things happen when care and you are invited to speak because then people are fascinated. But by the depth, by the insights, but by the knowledge, by the experience that you have to share. And this is so important when you have this channel and maybe it's in general very important to show up and wait until you can react to something, especially for a generator.

00:35:32:07 - 00:36:04:04
Patricia Lindner
And that's like really surrendering and accepting and trusting this flow. And this really shows up here. And there is one thing about that. That's what they say about the channel when you try to put pressure on you speaking in front of people, you spreading the word about something, you initiating things, then that could really turn out to be a physical problem.

00:36:04:06 - 00:36:29:05
Patricia Lindner
And I'm going to share it in a while. It's about the eyes. And I wonder, what do you have to say about this when you are in the flow and trust that people invite you and that they want to hear you and that they want to hear your message, that's fine. When you pressure it, it could be that you have an issue with the eyesight on the right side.

00:36:29:07 - 00:36:39:11
Patricia Lindner
That's what is said about this channel. So I wonder about everything that you have to bring to the table.

00:36:39:13 - 00:37:03:04
Karen Theimer
I don't know about that. Right. Like, yeah, like I'm thinking over my own eyes. I mean, normally I wear glasses, but yeah, I don't know. I actually don't like yeah, I'm not sure how to, how to respond to that. Well what's the question again. So it's like when we're at, when we surrender.

00:37:03:06 - 00:37:34:00
Patricia Lindner
And you pretty much said that you are all about surrendering to life and surrendering to possibilities and opportunities and just not putting pressure on to anything. And that's why I thought about this channel of acceptance. Maybe it is about you telling us about the experiences that you make and I can like it. So maybe it is easier to say that I am impressed by what you have to share.

00:37:34:02 - 00:38:06:11
Patricia Lindner
Because whenever I say something, you have an interesting story and you package it up with so much wisdom and experience and knowledge and this invitation to really tap into this world of yours. And and so I am impressed by what you have to share. And this is what this channel is about. So maybe it's not about the putting pressure and the eyesight part.

00:38:06:13 - 00:38:08:22
Patricia Lindner
That's just too much information.

00:38:08:24 - 00:38:28:20
Karen Theimer
Yeah, sometimes that's just, you know, what do you, what do you not seeing, right. Or what do you need to see. Right. It's yeah, it's something I have to think about. Right. And, and yeah it's, I think it's, it's about accept where we are, but that doesn't mean we have to be in this same space forever. Yeah. And giving ourselves permission.

00:38:28:20 - 00:38:55:09
Karen Theimer
I wish I could. I wish I had my notes from this morning when I listen to this, this another podcast because it was amazing. It just like it was everything I needed to hear today, Right? And just was like, Great. What? You know what? Like we don't. Yeah, it's just yeah, it's about, like I say, surrendering, accepting where we are and give ourselves permission to have whatever it is that we want.

00:38:55:10 - 00:39:06:19
Karen Theimer
I don't know if that even answers that question at all. However, this is where I'm at right now, right? Just yeah, just going through that, accepting where I'm at.

00:39:06:21 - 00:39:07:14
Patricia Lindner
Absolutely.

00:39:07:14 - 00:39:17:03
Karen Theimer
And so moving forward right. And I don't know, like maybe maybe that does have to do with eyesight where it's just seeing where this thing thing where we're at.

00:39:17:05 - 00:39:18:01
Patricia Lindner
Is not.

00:39:18:03 - 00:39:25:24
Karen Theimer
Accepting it. And then what is it that we're not seeing and go out and just do the thing? And I don't know. I don't know.

00:39:26:01 - 00:39:29:04
Patricia Lindner
I like it. I like it. And we don't know if do stop me.

00:39:29:04 - 00:39:35:05
Karen Theimer
The question. Yeah, that's okay. You gave me something to think about in a different way. But yeah.

00:39:35:07 - 00:40:05:18
Patricia Lindner
And so what I also see in the chart is you, you talked about phases of maybe your feelings dark or not really enjoying life so much. So for you, it is so important to really know your value. That is what I just can say from looking at your chart and not questioning that you are amazing. Not questioning that you just in the way that you are are magnificent.

00:40:05:18 - 00:40:56:02
Patricia Lindner
That you are bringing forth your special magnificence to make an impact in the world and to really invite people into your space because your special flavor is so needed. And that's when I really want to ask you, is there anything that comes to your mind that you want to share, like a hidden gem, like anything that you heard in the podcast this morning, anything from your experiences with plant medicine, breath work, relationships, whatever, whatever you feel like you need to share right now, I would love to invite you to do that and add some value to anyone who's listening to the show.

00:40:56:04 - 00:41:26:24
Karen Theimer
Sure. my gosh. I feel that could be a whole other podcast. However, I think if I could give a tip. A tip is just remember that what what your thoughts are are not true. Right? And our brain, our monkey mind likes to tell a story. And most of those stories aren't true. Believe it or not, it took me a while to wrap my head around.

00:41:27:01 - 00:41:53:17
Karen Theimer
Invest in yourself because you're worth it, right? We can't figure out journey like I'm giving you more than just one tip. We can't figure this out on our own because we have a world that we believe is true. It's just about changing that perception. It's like there's another way of thinking about things. And what I teach my clients is that when you wake up in the morning, because we can change these thoughts at any time, right?

00:41:53:19 - 00:42:15:14
Karen Theimer
Here's one thing that you could do at home is just when you wake up in the morning, just pay attention to what thoughts are going on in your head. Are they happy thoughts or are they beating yourself up or are you raising like what? Just bring awareness to it. And if you don't like the way you're thinking, just change it.

00:42:15:14 - 00:42:36:04
Karen Theimer
Just all of a sudden just look out the window. Find one thing you're grateful for. I think. I think gratitude is not used enough. Right. And just think of one thing that that you're grateful for. Find something that brings you that smile. It could be the sun shining. Maybe it's your child's. Maybe it's your husband or wife or whoever.

00:42:36:06 - 00:42:47:13
Karen Theimer
You just find that one thing and just go into that happiness, even if it's for like 2 seconds, because this is breaking the pattern of that monkey mind taking you on a not so great journey.

00:42:47:14 - 00:42:49:00
Patricia Lindner
Automatic.

00:42:49:02 - 00:43:06:13
Karen Theimer
Yeah, Yeah. And come back to and come back to breath. That's the other thing. So I like you. that tip helps. Anyway, that really worked a lot for me because I could go to bed at night and be in a great mood and wake up and be in the most powerless mood. I'm like, What? Where did I go?

00:43:06:15 - 00:43:09:19
Karen Theimer
Right? What happened? Then? I go traveling off somewhere.

00:43:09:21 - 00:43:33:10
Patricia Lindner
You just caught me. I was thinking about thoughts that I sometimes have in the morning, and then they won't go away. So I think that is a great tip when you consciously pay attention to that and when you shift in and change it and your work with gratitude or just look for another focus. Now we are back to the focus word.

00:43:33:12 - 00:43:42:13
Karen Theimer
Yeah, just on I want to think like this all day long and have fun with it. And if it's a no, it.

00:43:42:15 - 00:43:49:05
Patricia Lindner
Yeah, yeah. Because we could really wake up having the most amazing, magnificent tomorrow. Then we go for that. Of course I.

00:43:49:05 - 00:43:55:04
Karen Theimer
Like this one today. I'm going to go on with that. Will it change through the day? Of course. You're still human. Yeah. Thank you.

00:43:55:04 - 00:44:21:00
Patricia Lindner
Don't. If people want to get in touch with you, want to learn more about you, want to really know more about your incredible work and want to change their automatic negative thinking. They are full narrative. They want to gain more freedom in every aspect of their life. Or try out a breathwork session. Where can they find you? How can they get in touch with you?

00:44:21:00 - 00:44:44:06
Karen Theimer
Karen You can follow me on Facebook and Instagram under my name. Karen Taimur t h e. I am r and or you can go on to my website, which is, which is my brand new website that I'm excited about called Karen Timer. Karen Timer Styling My last name EMR. Karen Timer dot com and then you can check out my website.

00:44:44:06 - 00:44:50:14
Karen Theimer
I feel free. Just drop me a message and say, Hi, how are you? Here's how I heard about you from your podcast.

00:44:50:14 - 00:45:38:01
Patricia Lindner
Yes, you should definitely do that. I can encourage everyone to get in touch with Karen because I only have the most amazing, amazing experiences when I meet you, when I work with you, whatever, whenever we talk. So there is always inspiration, insight and so much value in what you have to give and to share. I am so happy that you were my guest today in this show, in this episode that you shared about your story, your wisdom that you invited us into your world, your is there anything that you want to say to wrap it up?

00:45:38:03 - 00:46:02:22
Karen Theimer
I just want to say thank you. Thank you, Patricia, for doing everything that you do and sharing, you know, your podcast and interviewing people. And thank you for interviewing me and attracting an amazing people into your world because we need to raise the vibration of love, not fear. Right? And and I find these podcasts do a lot. And so thank you for having me as my guest.

00:46:02:22 - 00:46:10:18
Karen Theimer
And we just met not that long ago. So I feel like it's like, my God, we've been like best friends forever. There's a reason that. So thank you.

00:46:10:20 - 00:46:37:21
Patricia Lindner
Thank you for being my guest. And yes, what you just said and this is what I heard back from someone who listened to another episode or some of the episodes. It's about raising the vibration because they were so happy about what was shared and also the attitude of how I talk about the human design of people. Because you could just paint everything in black and white.

00:46:38:02 - 00:47:06:00
Patricia Lindner
You could put people into a box. But that's not my intention. My mission is to bring out the best in everyone. And if anyone out there is interested in knowing their human design or just having an amazing conversation, I highly suggest that recommend that I can't wait to meet anyone. Maybe as a podcast guest or as just someone who shares and exchanges experiences.

00:47:06:02 - 00:47:17:16
Karen Theimer
And that story. One more thing that human design. Thank you for that because you just again, it's like it's just learning who you are, right? So everybody has to do that human design. So sure.

00:47:17:17 - 00:47:36:16
Patricia Lindner
One should know who they are. Absolutely. This was another amazing episode of Magnificence, the One and Only Empowerment podcast that strikes a mentioned shines the light on the magnificence of my guests and of course, on your magnificence. Thank you so much and bye for now.

00:47:36:18 - 00:47:40:00
Karen Theimer
I thank you.