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In this captivating episode of Magnificence, host Patricia Lindner sits down with the fascinating Cesar Marin, a former CNN employee turned microdosing advocate.
After 25 years in the corporate rat race, Cesar's life took an unexpected turn when he discovered the power of psychedelic medicine. Faced with a layoff and struggling with a problematic relationship with cannabis, Cesar turned to microdosing as a way to heal and find a new path forward.
Patricia skillfully guides the conversation, allowing Cesar to share his incredible story of transformation. From his first awakening experience with psilocybin mushrooms to his current role as a thought leader in the psychedelic space, Cesar's journey is one of courage, curiosity, and a deep commitment to living authentically.
Throughout the episode, Cesar shares profound insights on the importance of being present, letting go of worry, and having faith in oneself. He emphasizes the need for education and responsible use when it comes to psychedelic substances, urging listeners to do their own research and approach microdosing with intention.
Patricia's thoughtful questions and keen observations add depth to the conversation, as she shares her own insights from Cesar's Human Design chart. The two explore the concepts of wisdom, rebellion, and the power of embracing one's true nature.
Whether you're a seasoned psychonaut or simply curious about the potential of plant medicine, this episode is a must-listen. Cesar's story is a reminder that it's never too late to reinvent yourself and find a new path to happiness and fulfillment.
Tune in to hear more about Cesar's incredible journey, and discover how microdosing and psychedelic medicine are changing lives and challenging stereotypes. This episode is a true testament to the power of following your curiosity and embracing the unknown.
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Patricia Lindner
That's the inside of this amazing gate 43.
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Patricia Lindner
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Patricia Lindner
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Patricia Lindner
Gone are the days of mindless conformity. Your fitting in just to keep the peace. This show and your host, Patricia Lindner, are here to guide you as you align with your authentic design, leading the way to a life of purpose and fulfillment. Magnificence is not some unreachable peak or distant dream. It's inside you waiting to shine brighter than you ever thought possible.
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Patricia Lindner
Welcome to your magnificence.
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Patricia Lindner
Hello and welcome to another amazing episode of magnificence, the one and only empowerment podcast that strikes a match and shines the light on the magnificence of my guests. And today I have with me the amazing Caesar Marin. Hello and welcome to the show.
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Cesar Marin
Patricia. Thank you so much for having me. I feel so honored and humbled to have gotten an invitation from you to come and share wonderful conversation about not only how magnificent I can be, but how magnificent you are, and just how magnificent that fact of the world that we live in is. So thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the time to to have this wonderful conversation with me.
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Cesar Marin
And welcome, welcome to my home in Atlanta. It's a beautiful day.
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Patricia Lindner
Wonderful, wonderful. I am honored that you are with me and I can't wait to dive into this conversation, because I have this idea that it's going to be a deep and interesting one. And just before I hit the record button, I said that just your name, Cesar Marin. Sounds like melody. It sounds amazing. And I want to share a little bit about you, but just a sentence or two, and then I invite you to share more about what you do, who you are, everything that you would love to share with the audience so that they get to know you a little bit better.
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Patricia Lindner
So what I know about you, you, are I, I'd say a wisdom keeper because that goes hand-in-hand with what I want to share about you when it comes to your human design and you are a transformational motivator. what I know about you is that after a long career in the TV industry, you decided to become an entrepreneur.
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Patricia Lindner
And now you are dedicated to introducing people, to microdosing, to, just sharing your experience, your wisdom, around that and to, to to just bring something. I'd say something new because it is not that common to talk about microdosing and stuff like that. So I'm so excited to learn more about you and about what you do. And maybe you just add some flavor to what I just said about you.
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Patricia Lindner
Marin.
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Cesar Marin
Oh, Patricia, thank you so much. That was that was really well recapped of of a bit of who I am. Right. And like you said, I worked at CNN. I worked at CNN for 25 years. worked in that corporate rat race, trying to be here and, and, and just the, the broadcast news type of situation.
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Cesar Marin
And I was lucky because I worked in sports for a while, but at the age of 54, CNN, which was owned by WarnerMedia, was brought out by discovery. Right. And at the time, I realized, look, there's a potential that I'm going to be laid off from the job I've had for 25 years. And at the same time, plant medicine came into my life at the same time.
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Cesar Marin
I started, you know, hearing a story about mushrooms and about psilocybin and how they were changing people and how this one person had this incredible childlike experience. And and it really ignited my childhood curiosity about, wait a minute, what would what are they talking about? A couple weeks later, someone else, I'm at a bike ride that we used to do says, hey, you know, I asked him why?
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Cesar Marin
What do you look so happy to see now? I'm, I just had some psilocybin mushrooms, and I feel like a child, and my curiosity right away is intrigued, and I'm like, what is this that people are talking about? And at the time, I was dealing with a really bad relationship with cannabis. I had a relationship with cannabis where the cannabis was dictating what was going on.
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Cesar Marin
It wasn't me dictating what was going on in my life, and the plant medicines opened me up to this sense of like, wait a minute, hold on to that. Which is the alternative, the way that people are using these medicines, these psychedelics, these medicinal, these drugs, you can label it whatever you want to be. End of the day, there's substances that the earth is keeping us from whatever reason.
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Cesar Marin
And they say to me, look, we're going to change your life. We're going to close this chapter, CNN, where you've been for 25 years, you're going to stand on the ground. You're going to take a deep breath. You're going to take this all in. We're going to close this 25 year chapter. We're going to open up this new one where you are going to become a thought leader.
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Cesar Marin
We're people. You're going generation. You're going to talk to people at 15 older about how microdosing means changed your life, how at the age of 50 or everything that identified you were something that completely identified who you were, which is your career for 25 years, is taken away from you. And what are you going to do now? How are you going to react now?
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Cesar Marin
And it was at that time where I said, you know what? Let me let me figure out how I get into this healing psychedelic space. And it started by creating an apparel brand, cultivating wisdom, because I'm a big believer that that's what these medicines do. They cultivate wisdom. and I started this apparel brand for people to be able to manifest the fact that they were using these substances responsibly, that it wasn't something that was trippy or psychedelic ish or tie dye very clean, that someone that's where something like this is microdosing and someone says, oh, do you microdose?
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Cesar Marin
I've heard about that. I read about that in you or told me with some wisdom, we start this conversation without someone you know, like Patricia. Let's be honest. If I'm sitting here having a conversation with you, even across the internet with some tie dyed shirt and I started talking about psychedelics, what are most people going to say? Listen, hippie, listen, stoner, go listen to your Grateful Dead eight track tapes and come back when you're not high.
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Cesar Marin
And maybe we could have an adult conversation so I took on this role now of being this thought leader, really educating people, my generation, about the true benefits of microdosing, how they tell me and how through education and proper citizen science, you can really find an effective microdosing practice and pretty much recreate your own life, like reinvent yourself by really having this notion that the best moment we have is this moment we have right now.
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Patricia Lindner
That sounds absolutely interesting and intriguing at the same time. I can't wait to learn more about you. And just by listening or when listening to you carefully, I was like. What's next? What should I ask next? What should I share next? Because you gave me so many ideas on how to continue our conversation, I would love to share your Human Design chart.
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Patricia Lindner
Yes, please, because I love looking at the magnificence of people through the lens of human design. And in the latest podcast episodes, I dove even deeper into the gene cuz I feel called to do more of that. So. But first of all, let's look at your chart and I want to say something about,
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Patricia Lindner
something that stood out when you talked or many things that stood out.
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Patricia Lindner
And I don't want to, turn this conversation into a monologue, but I could really, honestly talk for 60 minutes or more about how amazing you are and what stands out. And as you said, thought leader and wisdom and wisdom and thought leader, these two words came up over and over and over again. I need to dive into something in your chart that expresses exactly that, exactly that.
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Patricia Lindner
And, let's just for yeah, this round of of presenting this chart, stick to human design and then dive into the depth of it, because it feels like with you, I need to go very deep and.
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Cesar Marin
let's go deep. I'm ready to go deep.
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Patricia Lindner
Super. So you are a generator. You are here to do the work. You are someone who has a lot of energy and you are constantly generate ING and creating more energy when you are in the right space, when you are in the right career, when you are around the right people, in your case, and, what stands out is I want to dive into a deeper part of the human design chart already.
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Patricia Lindner
What jumps out into my eyes is this channel, which is channel 4323, and we are going to wrap our conversation a lot around 40. I'm going to tell you more about that. But this is the channel of structuring. That is what normal people say about it. I it is the channel of the genius. For me, it's, wisdom keepers channel.
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Patricia Lindner
Channel. It is someone who is who has some amazing ideas that might not be right from the here and now, but may be very futuristic. Yeah, and not everyone is ready to understand what you want to share, what you want to bring into this world. And the the crucial part about this is you need to pay attention, to who is ready to listen to my message and to hear what I have to say and who is simply not ready.
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Patricia Lindner
It's not about you. It's your genius. That might sometimes feel a bit icky because people don't understand what you're talking about. But you are all about having this genius. So the genius ideas come from here, and I'm going to talk about 43 later
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Patricia Lindner
Directly connected to your throat. which means it's, around the right timing. When to express. What do you have to say? And I don't know if this makes sense to you. So how are you perceived? That is my next question, because you already shared a little bit, what people might say. oh, dear people that put you into this box or that just, look at you in a strange way, or are you just welcomed with open arms when you share your message?
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Patricia Lindner
What does this look like?
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Cesar Marin
I think I think the interesting part of it is that there's this novelty to it, but there's this novelty to having this gray haired guy who looks he looks presentable. He's not he's not some psychic. Not he's not some hippie. He's not some person that's out there, this presentable person talking about plant medicine and how it changed his life.
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Cesar Marin
They people listen up. But you might have 2 or 3 people like, well yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. But for the most part people are like intrigued. They like what we're all about. And second, wait a second. And then and then it comes, like you said on the backdrop that, you know, here's a person who worked at CNN, you know, he's got some credibility that comes with him.
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Cesar Marin
So there is that openness also to people accepting my message. Right. For people listening, for people saying, you know, he's got some type of credibility. He's, he's, he's, he's he's as a voice. Well, we can trust, you know, we can we can, we can trust because he's been there. So I think I think I've been lucky that that maybe if I would have been having this discussion five years ago, ten years ago, people would have been like, dude, hold on a second.
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Cesar Marin
But but, Patricia, I'll be honest with you. The my last days at CNN before, you know, I got laid off November, December 1st. They gave me the announcement and I said, look, I'm going to work for another month. I wasn't going to mess with people's holidays. I knew people had vacation. I wasn't going to say because they told me, you can lead now.
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Cesar Marin
You want. I said, no, I'm going to work through Christmas. The holiday said that people have just in case they had vacation. I'll be filling in for them. but it was this sense. So. I at the end, I was telling everyone that I was microdosing. I was at CNN, like telling people, yeah, I'm microdosing right now. They're like, really?
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Cesar Marin
Like you're talking about microdosing here. It's, you know, I'm like, yes, it's really helped me. We can be more authentic. I started my own company. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to live. Right. And people like you, she's got laid off like you should be sad and you should be, you know, depressed. Then you should be. You just lost your job.
00:14:01:07 - 00:14:23:21
Cesar Marin
And I was like, no, there's no time for that. There's only time for happiness, you know, time for realizing that today's the best day of my life. And that's I think that when people hear that, when people sense that enthusiasm, sense that like, wait a minute, this guy's really changed his life. Like, he's I think people perk up and.
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Cesar Marin
Yes, of course. Look, Patricia, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna have five people that I talked to, and we're going to say, there's no way ever. It's not going to happen. I'm never going to use psychedelics. They're poison. I read about it. I've seen the studies, whatever. There's going to be two people, right? You're going to ignite their childhood curiosity and they're going to be like, wait a minute, one.
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Cesar Marin
And there's research. Well, not a second. And Johns Hopkins University and NYU and other universities, potentially, but there's going to be that one person that's going to be like, wait a minute, I'm exactly where she was two years ago. And now look at him. Look how he changed his life. Look how he really grabbed life by the happiness he grabbed.
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Cesar Marin
We liken it every day has to be so beautiful because it's the only one. Wow. And tomorrow you might not wake up. So if you don't really realize that thing is what it's about, then you're missing out. You're missing out on all of this. You're missing out on the birds singing. You're missing out on a car going by.
00:15:25:11 - 00:15:51:03
Cesar Marin
You're missing out on someone telling you do a story. You're missing out on so many things. So it's. It's it's I think going back to your question, I think there's a lot more openness to this now just because we have science behind me, because we have articles are written about it, because we have, you know, the, the, the U.N. talking about sort of it's not some hippies in the back doing drugs, psychedelics.
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Cesar Marin
They're going crazy. No, this is like, wait a minute. I mean, there's things that can be done there. There's things there's a lot of people that can be helped with these medicines. Let's investigate, but try and see. And for me, it's super exciting. For me, it's like, thank you universe for putting this into my life. So now I can talk about it.
00:16:09:21 - 00:16:35:01
Patricia Lindner
That's an interesting and, I, I want to show up as someone who doubts. Absolutely. So I don't doubted, but I want to show up as someone who absolutely doubts it because I don't know who is going to watch this episode. And I want to be the voice for people that might just have some questions, on their mind.
00:16:35:01 - 00:17:13:00
Patricia Lindner
And two things come up and I feel like this could be a collective question, for people who never, ever heard about microdosing or heard about it and don't know a lot about it, and just making that practical, I would love to ask. Or I would love to challenge you. Isn't microdosing just covering up your deep issues? And isn't it diluting reality so that you lie at a certain level and that's not you, because you could not handle your issues.
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Patricia Lindner
That is what could could really come up in some vegetables head.
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Cesar Marin
That's it. That's a beautiful question, Patricia. And it's in it's incredibly well well framed. And I appreciate I appreciate that question because there's a couple of things there. One, this isn't for everybody. That's nuts. Let's start there. Number two educate yourself. Make sure you know what you're getting into. Like don't say I'm going to microdose because seizure Microdose and he changed his life.
00:17:39:07 - 00:18:04:14
Cesar Marin
No no no no no. Let me figure it out and let me see what substances there are and what works better for me, what doesn't work, but what it does for me. And again, I'm not a scientist, I don't I haven't done research, I read studies, I read, you know, research papers. I try to sort of, you know, educate myself as much as possible what it does for me, what it does for me is it puts me in such a present state of mind, right?
00:18:04:16 - 00:18:28:07
Cesar Marin
That everything that happens in reality only happens in this moment, that that's where it helps me and that's the true reality. And you said, you know, am I taking a substance to mask my reality, right. This isn't really what I'm going through. For me. It's like, no, it unmasks the reality and says, no, this is where you are.
00:18:28:08 - 00:18:52:01
Cesar Marin
This is the reality of. But the reality is, in all honesty, I would have done this a week ago, and if I would have done something else and if I would have taken this job, and if I would have taken and without this medicine, substances, drugs, mushrooms, whatever you want to call them. I get a sense that sometimes that mind is just back there.
00:18:52:03 - 00:19:09:14
Cesar Marin
Well done. If I could have done this or that sense of what's going to happen in two weeks when I got this deadline in two weeks, and how and it's in two weeks and it's two weeks away and that's 14 days and say, well, I second take a deep breath, take a deep breath, put your feet on the ground.
00:19:09:16 - 00:19:37:12
Cesar Marin
Can you do something right now, at this moment to alleviate that anxiety, dude, feeling of something that's two weeks away. If you can't, then just released. And that's what it does for me. For me. And that's what it does for a lot of people who I work right will say, you know what? I get a sense that I can slow down a little when it's not always blah blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah that this is like, wait a minute, I can only resolve what I can do right now.
00:19:37:14 - 00:19:57:15
Cesar Marin
I get this moment. So the other thing, Patricia, which is really important, it's that it's not let me take a mushroom. Let me take a capsule. Let me take a piece of chocolate bar. Let me take, you know, a little bit of LSD, whatever you microdosing and and everything's going to be awesome. It's going to be great if it's going to be beautiful.
00:19:57:15 - 00:20:15:02
Cesar Marin
No, that's not the way it works. There has to be intention. Know it's. I tell people I work with Patricia. What are your intention and your intentions could be you know what I'm know to the supermarket today in the morning and I'm going to say good morning to five people because you know what? It's going to make me feel better.
00:20:15:04 - 00:20:34:12
Cesar Marin
Yeah. Might make someone else feel better. So those are my intention, my ten year journey to finish this project. My intentions are I need to call my mother when called Green Day, whatever those intentions are, and then sit with them and say, you know what? Medicine, whatever it is, help me to to really see these intentions and see them through.
00:20:34:14 - 00:20:55:05
Cesar Marin
And then afterwards again, it's it's a lot of things. Microdosing is a great tool for me. But I have a tool that maybe work works better, which is for alarms that I have during the day. At 1111, I take 11 deep breaths, right at 111, at 111, I fly somebody on my phone and I just send them a voicemail and say, hey, you know what?
00:20:55:10 - 00:21:10:21
Cesar Marin
Hope you're having a great day. I was just thinking about you and that's it. With no hopes in return for anything. At 333, I say, you know what? Let me go. Three, three minutes of movement, you know, three minutes of just shaking stuff out. And at 555, I sit back and have five minutes of reflecting on my day.
00:21:10:23 - 00:21:36:10
Cesar Marin
Was it a good day? Could I have done better? Maybe this can change. Wow, I really did well. They did like that meeting. Like I was on point that you reflect and maybe the microdosing enhances that a little bit, that maybe those alarm let you at volume six. But with the by microdosing you puts you at level seven because you're more in tune, because you have a lot more driving.
00:21:36:12 - 00:21:58:07
Cesar Marin
That's pretty good potentially. That's what it's done for me. Right. So that's that's what I tell people. And again, you're absolutely correct. It should not be. This is going to make my life better. It should not be. I'm taking this so that my life becomes, you know, this false reality. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, we have to live in our reality.
00:21:58:10 - 00:22:20:06
Cesar Marin
We have. That's the only place we can truly live. That's the place where it ends. And once we can do that, once we've been truly accept what happens and say, you know what, my life, it's not good. It's not bad. Just in me. It it's it's just it that I have great things that have my health, that have family, that have nature.
00:22:20:08 - 00:22:36:19
Cesar Marin
Yes. Those are all wonderful things. Right? But at the same time, you know, I mean, if my child is sick, does that make it a bad thing? Which child? The weather's beautiful, right now. If it starts to rain, is that a bad thing? No. So it's all. It's all how we look at it. So to answer your question.
00:22:36:21 - 00:23:01:12
Cesar Marin
one. Yes. If you're doubtful you have questions, ask. Educate yourself. Find a group. There's a group on Reddit there. They can come to me. There's a lot of people on social media. There's some books out. Just educate, you know, and I and I also. But you, I don't like pushing anything on anyone. I'm just going to share my experience and how it changed in.
00:23:01:13 - 00:23:05:16
Cesar Marin
I'm a big believer that the medicine will let you know.
00:23:06:12 - 00:23:24:15
Cesar Marin
The medicine is very smart. No one just wakes up in the morning, you know? What about you? What would your mushrooms. I mean, you see so much and see whatever. Whoa, wait a minute. It's not what I was expecting. That's. That's a recipe for disaster. Now, if it's like. Wait a minute, then some work. I know what I'm doing.
00:23:24:17 - 00:23:50:15
Cesar Marin
I've sourced whatever medicine I'm going to use. I know it's clean. I know it's liable. I know the legality of where do you, I'm doing this because I'm trying to better myself. I'm trying to. This isn't like I tell people that this isn't about getting high, but nothing to do with it. It's about being enlightened, right? And enlightened in a way, my true reality around me.
00:23:50:17 - 00:24:11:12
Cesar Marin
Like, look how beautiful it's looking back. I mean, and if you can do that, if you can quiet that mind down a tiny bit, not be in that, you know, futuristic thoughts of what could potentially happen and, you know, or these doubts from the past and depression that we're taking in. Ask me, can you can there a little bit happier?
00:24:11:14 - 00:24:33:09
Cesar Marin
You know, so what I would tell people is definitely, definitely educate yourself. Please, please, please, if this is something you're thinking about doing, it's microdosing. Something that you write about. It's, you know, it's it's it's, igniting your childhood curiosity. That's the edge. So I think.
00:24:33:11 - 00:24:47:01
Patricia Lindner
That's so wonderful because I think that was so needed, this clarification to not create some prejudices or I don't know if there is a, plural form.
00:24:47:02 - 00:24:47:11
Cesar Marin
Yeah.
00:24:47:14 - 00:24:48:18
Patricia Lindner
Prejudices or is.
00:24:48:18 - 00:24:50:03
Cesar Marin
It. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:50:05 - 00:25:19:13
Patricia Lindner
I do to not has anyone listen to us or read about, microdosing and just have this picture, in their minds? and you put it in such a beautiful way and you stress so much that people need to ask. They need to educate themselves. They need to consciously, decide what to do and reach out to people and inform themselves.
00:25:19:13 - 00:25:44:11
Patricia Lindner
And you said I'm not a scientist. but what I would love to say and what you share so beautifully connects with everything that I learned about you by looking at your chart. You are not a scientist. But now I'm going to screen share again. But you are the two things that I want to present. You are much more, much more, much more.
00:25:44:13 - 00:26:27:13
Patricia Lindner
But you are a role model and that is someone who tried things out and, in the first 20, 25 years, maybe even edgy things. And then you took this position that was like integrating stuff, learning about stuff, educating yourself, contemplating. And then in your 50s, that is simply showing up with all the experience that you have, and you just need to be the person that you are to attract people that exactly need to be inspired by you need to be educated by you.
00:26:27:15 - 00:26:57:21
Patricia Lindner
So I think that resonates a lot. The role model. and the other thing that stands out and I would really so I would really love to stress this because you talked about ask and educate and these words, they go well with a teacher. And I would, give you this a name of this microdosing teacher because and you can see this in your chart and I'm so excited that that's so true.
00:26:57:23 - 00:27:29:05
Patricia Lindner
You can look and I want to dive into the depth. So you have this number which is 40 3.6. And we said we are going to talk about 43 again. That's this gate and this is the conscious sun gate 43. And the dot six is like an exponent six. And exponent six means being the teacher. that's a very deep line of consciousness, something that you bring into this life.
00:27:29:05 - 00:28:01:14
Patricia Lindner
So this line six is the teacher's line in this aspect. And, the teacher does not need to teach per se, like teaching students, but you have all the gifts of a teacher. And that's what I beautifully saw when you presented and when you shared your wisdom when I asked you this question, this, this, doubtful question. and, yeah.
00:28:01:16 - 00:28:23:07
Patricia Lindner
So it is you sharing with the world and always looking through your eyes of wisdom with a lot of patience, without any judgment. That is what this line six, means for you. And I can see that so, so much.
00:28:23:09 - 00:28:49:06
Cesar Marin
It's so interesting that you say that it's because it's it's it's sort of something that, you know, I would always try to instill in my children which is, which is, you know, there's there's teachers. Yes. Right. And then there's leaders who teach. And when leaders teach by example, that's when you get the, the best, not even followers, but with the best people who are going to continue to grow.
00:28:49:06 - 00:29:11:20
Cesar Marin
Your message. Yeah. When you when you really lead by example. That's really beautiful. That's that's yeah. That's that's priceless. That's priceless. And and all of us know I think all of us, all of us have the capacity to do more than teachers because teaching, teaching is important. And and I think it's important for several we we we need to go back to handing down some of these teachings.
00:29:11:20 - 00:29:33:03
Cesar Marin
Right. I tell people that we become the society that instead of handing down wisdom to our children, we just hand down tablets and hand down phones. That's what we hand down to. And I mean, and it's not we we don't there's no there's no grandfather sitting down with your children saying, you know what? Look, this is this is what foundation is about, and this is what ethics is about.
00:29:33:05 - 00:29:56:11
Cesar Marin
And this isn't about morals. The Batman, you know, when you have a business, this is why you should have, you know, moral compass. And and since we don't have that and. Right. Yeah. It's so it then the next potentially the next option is to lead by example. Right to, to be those leaders that, that are continuously giving back.
00:29:56:13 - 00:30:15:00
Cesar Marin
It's not just about taking it as these leaders that it should take take take take take take, take. But there's still these leaders that that but that lead with the heart argue before they ask for something. And I think that those are those are really important. And that's that's who I want to show up. That's right. I want to show up as that type of leader.
00:30:15:02 - 00:30:21:02
Cesar Marin
Right. That, that that yes, the teachings come from the leadership by example.
00:30:21:04 - 00:30:51:04
Patricia Lindner
And I would love to add another layer, which you might probably like a lot because the teacher, in this case with the line six, has this question of why in his heart. And it's the wisest of all lines, because it contains all the other lines. There are six lines, and the teacher's line is the sixth line, and that means you are not the smartest.
00:30:51:04 - 00:31:21:23
Patricia Lindner
So don't don't take that as something bad. You are not the most attractive. You are not the most exciting. You are not the most approachable. You are not the most successful. These are the first five lines, but you see further than the others, and you integrated all those lines to be the wisest of all. And I think that is such a big compliment to say, yeah, you are not just the most attractive or just the most approachable.
00:31:22:01 - 00:31:36:23
Patricia Lindner
You contain all the wisdom. And I think wisdom is one word that really describes you in an energetic way. The best. That is what I found out.
00:31:37:01 - 00:31:56:15
Cesar Marin
and and it's funny that you say that because, you know, a lot of this is manifested the last year and a half, right? A lot of a lot of this sense of just talk to people and listen to people and then talk and share your experience and to be be this manifester of all of this positive energy.
00:31:56:17 - 00:32:18:18
Cesar Marin
because it's a year, you know, two years ago, you would have said, this is what you're going to be dealing with. It said, no, no. And sometimes you said that sometimes. Sometimes I'm sure there's still like question and yes, I have to like, why? Like why me? Like no. And yes. It's not. You're right. It's not about being the most attractive one or the one that's got the most followers or the one insists since being the one who's most authentic.
00:32:18:19 - 00:32:36:10
Cesar Marin
Yeah, right. Who's most vulnerable? Who is most real? Who? Who doesn't mind laughing and who's not? Who doesn't mind? You know, whatever it is that I think that's, that's that's really cool that that the charts show that because I really do feel that.
00:32:36:12 - 00:33:06:02
Patricia Lindner
Great and, hand in hand with this and this is really a deep dive, but, in this preparation phase, I felt called to really go into those depths. So you remember there is this, what the third gate that we talked about? It's called the gate of the breakthrough. This is an acoustic gate. It all has to do with the sense of listening to something just about in general.
00:33:06:04 - 00:33:26:22
Patricia Lindner
And I would love to describe that. And I don't know if I need to share. I can share quickly. Yeah, but we don't really need it. So we are here with this gate, Woody three and it's in here. And that's the conscious Sun gate, which has a lot of influence on your energetics. And it goes into the gene keys.
00:33:26:22 - 00:33:59:17
Patricia Lindner
When we look into those numbers. So and I have a question with what I share right now, because that is giving me so much more validation of those energetic teachings that I share with others. If you say yes, I totally relate to that. Or no, I don't relate at all. So it's an acoustic gate and it can show up in a shadow frequency and it can show up in, gift frequency and even in a higher frequency.
00:33:59:19 - 00:34:29:06
Patricia Lindner
But, what I want to tell people all the time is that a shadow is nothing that is bad that you need to get rid of. It is a starting point. of getting to a higher frequency. And the shadow frequency of this 43rd gate is deafness. As we talk about acoustics. And that sounds a bit strange, but it could play out in people with this gate like the following.
00:34:29:07 - 00:35:00:16
Patricia Lindner
And I can go back to you. this could play out as someone who is constantly worried. There is this internal noise and you talked about people having this internal noise, worrying about the future and not seeing real life, not seeing, not having the big insights. So this is the fear of the future, the fear of not belonging, the fear of not fitting in and being the outcast.
00:35:00:18 - 00:35:47:05
Patricia Lindner
Or it could show up in a very noisy way. That is someone with this gate especially, and it is in all people. But in your case it is especially gate being really noisy. That means there is this external noise of talking a lot and talking a lot, and talking a lot and never stopping, to talk. so this is the shadow frequency and someone who is very conscious and who works on growth and self development has the amazing capacity to go from there, to see this as an opportunity to go into insight and insight means, and I love that so much for you.
00:35:47:07 - 00:36:19:07
Patricia Lindner
Insight is owning the first law of being a rebel, a creative rebel. That means again, about the acoustic part and I hope that is not too complicated. So there is no more internal noise. Maybe there is. Sometimes there is no more just chatting and talking and blah blah blah. But there is this hey, now I stop listening to the status quo.
00:36:19:09 - 00:36:50:10
Patricia Lindner
I am the poet, the pirate, the lover, I am rebel, the rebel, the creative rebel. And I am the the, the one that, fills a space that can't be duplicated. I am who I am, I am in the here and now. I show up exactly the way I am. And that's the inside. That's the inside of this amazing gate 43.
00:36:50:14 - 00:37:10:15
Patricia Lindner
So no more listening to the inner chatter. No more chatting and just talking because of talking, doing. But stop listening to the status quo and being who you are. The creative rebel. I love that, I love that it's.
00:37:10:15 - 00:37:33:12
Cesar Marin
So beautiful because it's so it's it's it's funny, Patricia, because it it encompasses exactly where I am at this present moment. Right. This this rebel of. Yes. You are this thought leader. Yes. Get your get your horse out there. Yes. Get your webinar out there. Yes. You're booked out and is doubted. Be who you are. Be present that people might say what it cares.
00:37:33:12 - 00:38:12:20
Cesar Marin
Be that rebel. Be the grandpa who's microdosing you. I don't mean really, grandpa. Be the rebellious grandpa. We're saying yes, we're microdosing. We're doing this. We're doing it correctly and show up. Enough of the chatter, enough of the sort of white noise that surround it and just get it done. So it's it's it's so awesome that that you have coming to me at this time in my life and entering, you know, this circle of my universe and me entering the circle of you universe because it it comes in, your message comes perfectly when I needed it the most, like the most like that that that that message of encouragement of.
00:38:12:21 - 00:38:38:06
Cesar Marin
Yes, you're in the right spot. Yes, you're doing the right thing. Yes, your energy chart shows that you're on the right path. That's that's a breath of fresh air for me because like you said, sometimes there's still those little doubts in the back of the mind, oh, we doing this, you know. So, so that that's really it's it's it's amazing.
00:38:38:07 - 00:38:45:23
Cesar Marin
that again, the universe works in such incredible ways that you come to my life at this moment. Big.
00:38:46:01 - 00:39:30:19
Patricia Lindner
Beautiful. And so I feel like, what I shared with you. Just. Reinforced or empowered you to even more go into this direction and to even more be this creative rebel. And I wonder, or I assume that microdosing was part of your journey from maybe some worries and thoughts going on in your head to more of this clarity and insight that you should stop listening to the mind chatter and the chatter from the outside world.
00:39:30:19 - 00:39:37:12
Patricia Lindner
If I got that right and you didn't even share it, I just assumed I just feel or sense it.
00:39:37:16 - 00:40:06:18
Cesar Marin
100%. Yeah, 100, 100, 100%. And and it's I, I really appreciate how you phrased it because some people have rephrased in the sense of Caesar, what would have happened if microdosing wasn't in your light when you lost your job at CNN? And I go, I don't know, I really I'm, I don't even it's so fearful of what could have happened.
00:40:06:19 - 00:40:32:07
Cesar Marin
It could have been so bad, like the destruction level of me not being present. me just drowning in the sea of depression. If I would have done this, it me being stuck in a storm of anxiety could have been so detrimental to myself. But it. On top of that, with the bad relationship with the cannabis, God knows what could have held but the universe.
00:40:32:07 - 00:40:57:12
Cesar Marin
Like I said, the universe said don't worry, don't worry. Take a deep breath. You're going to be okay. Don't worry about tomorrow. Worry about right now. Don't worry about yesterday. Worry about right now. The only thing you need to worry about in this exact moment. Once you do that, everything will fall into place. And look this exact moment you come to me with this message of saying you were on the right path.
00:40:57:14 - 00:41:11:21
Cesar Marin
Don't doubt it. Or second, don't even question it for a second until you continue in telling you to do what you're doing. That, to me, is like. Thank you universe.
00:41:11:23 - 00:41:38:16
Patricia Lindner
And thank you because this is a gift, what you just shared. And I think I always ask my guests if there is a golden nugget that they could share what you just said, don't worry about the future. Just be in this very moment. I think that is one of the most amazing golden nuggets that you could put out there into the world.
00:41:38:18 - 00:41:40:10
Patricia Lindner
Don't you agree?
00:41:40:12 - 00:42:09:00
Cesar Marin
it's totally because that's what it's about. I, you know, and it's been very recently, very, very the last couple of months I've really, really understood, really understood that today, today is the best day of my life. And then that and when I when I realize that and when I go to by being that way, when I realize, you know, this is amazing when when I interact with people, I could tell them, thank you for being part of the best day of my life.
00:42:09:01 - 00:42:28:01
Cesar Marin
People are like, when I think that I feel special, like I feel special. And if and if our only mission in life should be to make others feel special in one way or another, whether it's through a good morning, whether it's you. Thank you for being part of the best day of my life. There's there's no better wealth than that.
00:42:28:01 - 00:42:47:19
Cesar Marin
And I'll take that over money any day, any day, because that's what true value is about that human human connection. So. So yes, like you said, don't worry about tomorrow. Worry about right now. Don't worry about yesterday. Worry about right now. Because today is the best day of your life.
00:42:47:21 - 00:43:17:13
Patricia Lindner
Absolutely. And what you just said reminded me of this big epiphany that I had when I read something around. So I don't know if this was quite the wording, but, more or less, you do not attract what you wish to attract, all those manifestation stuff things, you don't need to just do some strange rituals, but you always attract who you are.
00:43:17:15 - 00:43:40:01
Patricia Lindner
And that was like a real major insight into, okay, I attract who I am. So when I look around and see what I have and what people are in my life and what connections there are, and how people approach me, then I know who I am and I can change that. I can create what I want to see in my life.
00:43:40:03 - 00:43:49:02
Patricia Lindner
If I show up as the person I am, and I want to be 100% in alignment with my nature.
00:43:49:04 - 00:44:13:14
Cesar Marin
Which is you hit it so much. I had everyone I talk to, everyone I work with, the people I work with. I go, you need to do three things on a daily basis. You need to think, you need to act, and you need to feel like that person that you want to become, right? Because I had this big idea that life isn't about who you were.
00:44:13:16 - 00:44:33:19
Cesar Marin
It's not. And life isn't really even about who you are right now. Because if you stay where you are right now and you stagnant is no growth, life is truly about who you're becoming. What are you becoming, or are you becoming a better partner? We becoming a better father? When you becoming a better business owner, you becoming a better member of your society.
00:44:33:21 - 00:44:54:21
Cesar Marin
You becoming a member of your community. What are you becoming? What are you? And whatever you're becoming, think like that person. Act like that person. Be like that person and you're going to get it's the doubts it. And you know, whatever that that's that's we get in our own ways as human beings. Like we get in our own ways, like we trip out.
00:44:54:21 - 00:45:07:09
Cesar Marin
So we're like waiting to do, hey, look at it. There he is. Let me see. Let me trip him up. We can't do that to ourselves. We must to really believe that we can be anyone we want to become. We just have to do it. Look, if you're going to.
00:45:07:11 - 00:45:37:21
Patricia Lindner
Yeah, amazing. So if anyone who is watching this episode of magnificence feels like, oh, I want to know more about that, I want to get in touch with Cesar or I want to have a conversation. I want to figure out if this journey that you are on is something that could inspire me, could help me with some issues, could make me a better version of who I am.
00:45:37:23 - 00:45:41:11
Patricia Lindner
where can people reach you or.
00:45:41:13 - 00:46:07:01
Cesar Marin
Yeah, there's a there's a, there's a, there's a couple of places, obviously. Instagram. It's cultivating dot wisdom. That's the Instagram account. most of my, teaching wisdom, guidance, this spotty people, you know, my my, my little words of wisdom are on there. I'm also on LinkedIn. People that find me on LinkedIn, we're starting to put together a better YouTube channel to put some content on there.
00:46:07:03 - 00:46:28:05
Cesar Marin
like I said, I'm, I'm about to launch an e-book, which is going to be a free e-book, on how to create a microdosing practice at a later age over the age of 50. I mean, it's sort of I, I have a feeling that that's that's really my true people who I want to embrace. Not that I want I don't want to embrace everybody.
00:46:28:07 - 00:46:54:16
Cesar Marin
But let's be honest. I mean, I, I'm going to have I'm going to have better success talking to someone with 52 who's been divorced, whose kids are older, who's lost her job, who's gone through, you know, middle aged depression, then a 20 or 30 year old who is just driving and then and getting in and whatever. So it's it's it's really getting people over 50 and saying, let's have a conversation.
00:46:54:19 - 00:47:17:14
Cesar Marin
Let's, let's, let's have a conversation. Where are you? How are you feeling? Are you getting the sense of life it over? No lightness in beginning. Like she starts to get better now because you can make it better. So that's that's what we want to really teach through the Cultivating Wisdom program. which again, will there'll be a course on how to create a sage microdosing practice.
00:47:17:14 - 00:47:37:02
Cesar Marin
But, you know, best place, like you said is, is it's probably Instagram, but wedding wisdom there is also Cesar Marinette, which is sort of my home page that will we we building and also getting the apparel. The apparel is really cool. It's sort of it's cultivating wisdom. Dot net is the apparel store, a lot of cool little designs.
00:47:37:02 - 00:47:55:02
Cesar Marin
We're going to bring in some designs also when we, we also we want to make it conversational. We also want to have a little fun right. We also want to, you know, not take ourselves too seriously without again, it being trippy or psychedelic as you're coming off it. It will be right in the woods. You know, getting spaced out, because that's not what it's about.
00:47:55:05 - 00:48:19:20
Cesar Marin
Well-Being, enlightenment, Beatrice. It's about being in line. And that's and that's again, a lot of these medicines have done that. I hope that in any way I've ignited people's curiosity, right, to sort of oh, wait a minute, hold on a second. What is this? Because I had the same I had I had look, I had the same response when I, when I have my first what I call awakening.
00:48:19:20 - 00:48:40:15
Cesar Marin
Right. But the first big ish psychedelic experience where I'm like, wait a minute, hold on a second. This is what my hands feel like. And, this is what it feels like to breathe in. And I'm sensing that for the first time, everything that's around me like, wait a minute, there's this 360 world around me that exists. And I was just a reader eating beer, right?
00:48:40:15 - 00:49:01:11
Cesar Marin
This is all I knew. And now it's like, wait a minute, all of this exists. I also had, you know, that sense. So when I got home wanting to figure out, like, what just happened, and then all of a sudden it was like, wait a minute, like, psychedelics are being used for medicine, my being used for therapy, and it's being used to help people.
00:49:01:11 - 00:49:22:12
Cesar Marin
And that's when that's when my curiosity really opened up to, you know, who is using this, what's happened? And there's this great story that I want to share. Before we had this, this the story of this woman who I met, who she had an eating disorder, and her eating disorder was this condition where she could only eat like tool, like 3 or 4 foods.
00:49:22:14 - 00:49:47:06
Cesar Marin
The only thing everything else was like, I can't, I can't, I really can't look at it again. Tolerated existent since not therapist, nutritionist, psychologist. Not that we can't we don't know anything about it. She starts reading it. She read, she comes across a product articles of people using psychedelics to help with eating disorders. Most people think eating disorders, believe me.
00:49:47:08 - 00:50:09:19
Cesar Marin
anorexia. But isn't it all the eating disorders and and and and she says, well, this might help me. And she gets her partner to, to set out foods that she knew she would not like. That was that she would lids on them and she takes the medicine. She got a blindfold on and is it medicine kicks in and her senses start to sort of, you know, in On Fire.
00:50:09:19 - 00:50:29:04
Cesar Marin
She's like, what's that? What's that smell? And she opens up the first one and she starts to eat it and she's like, oh my God. Like, wait a minute. That's that's what that he said this beautiful but like a design. It's an orchestra in my mouth. Like what else? What else have I been missing? And she realizes that
00:50:29:04 - 00:50:33:02
Cesar Marin
her condition was, it was
00:50:33:02 - 00:50:33:20
Cesar Marin
here.
00:50:33:22 - 00:51:00:16
Cesar Marin
And yes, of course, there's still a couple of food that she's like, you know what, I don't know, but for the most part, it's like, I'm open to eat a whole bunch of stuff. So again, the mind is a beautiful thing. And psychedelics, at the end of the day means mind expand. Yeah. And if we can expand our minds right to some, we need something we knew some nuance that maybe we'd been missing under again, correct supervision.
00:51:00:16 - 00:51:27:03
Cesar Marin
Correct education. You know, correct set in setting mindset. Right. What mindset are you what you're setting where you are yet they could potentially have really wonderful effects. At least I've seen it. I've seen studies. I've talked to thousands of people. Spoon, whose lives have been completely changed for the better. so again, do you do your homework? Definitely do your homework.
00:51:27:03 - 00:51:39:09
Cesar Marin
Be like, look, be like Patricia for short because she's ask question, ask questions. Don't be the one that's going to follow just because someone else that know be skeptical. Be skeptical.
00:51:39:11 - 00:51:43:07
Patricia Lindner
I must doubt. I'm a doubt. Or by nature that's beautiful.
00:51:43:07 - 00:51:59:18
Cesar Marin
That's that's beautiful. And it's not. And it's and it's a doubter. Not in the sense of like, I doubt I can do this. No, it's a doubter of like, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Let me. And that's important. And that's important that that we teach people to do that. Yeah. That we're not sort of program that, you know, let's say thing.
00:51:59:18 - 00:52:18:10
Cesar Marin
Look, I could have people on psychedelics. Your bad. Psychedelics are bad. Second thoughts about my good I didn't I doubt it. I went wait a minute. Oh that a second. Yeah. Let me see. Let me do my whole research. Let me do my own homework and oh, wait a minute for me, they worked perfectly. They worked amazing. They they they they changed my life.
00:52:18:12 - 00:52:26:09
Cesar Marin
So if I hadn't have doubted, right, that that that sense that psychedelics are bad, you know, I mean, who knows wherever.
00:52:26:09 - 00:52:38:00
Patricia Lindner
But yeah, I think doubt is the starting point. That is one of my shadow aspects. But doubt is the starting point to investigate and to come to a truth.
00:52:38:02 - 00:52:38:18
Cesar Marin
and let's need.
00:52:38:23 - 00:52:40:01
Patricia Lindner
To see that.
00:52:40:03 - 00:53:07:11
Cesar Marin
And let's and let's clarify that there's a difference between doubt in the sense of like, I doubt what you're telling me and defeating doubting oneself. Yeah, right. Because that's. Yeah, about two completely different things. Right. And I tell people that the best remedy to doubt in oneself, it's just actually to do the thing. Yeah. Whatever it is, sometimes we sit in this doubt and it's like I tell people, you know, we sit in these doubts and then we, we, we envision, oh, this is going to happen and that's going to happen.
00:53:07:15 - 00:53:31:04
Cesar Marin
And what did this and what's that? 90% of the things we worry about never have happened, never happened. It's just they just don't. So it's sort of it's that worrying is and I also tell people that. More. Yes. Religion in some sense for some people is incredibly important. But which people that are held together because of religion. Yeah, right.
00:53:31:06 - 00:53:55:07
Cesar Marin
But more importantly than having faith in whatever religion you believe in, whatever it is, you have to have faith in yourself. You have to. You have to. I see too many people. Oh, God, please help me with this. Oh, please, Lord God. Oh, please. That's how you know. Johnny, help yourself with this. Yeah, Billy, you do it. God's the school.
00:53:55:11 - 00:54:16:08
Cesar Marin
Oh, it's Billy's turn today. Let's see if we can help him out. Or at least I don't believe that's how it works. I just I believe that you have faith in yourself. You realize you need to get done. You do the hard work so that later things are easier. You don't like it easier. So then it's harder to do that in the hard work.
00:54:16:08 - 00:54:40:10
Cesar Marin
Now, the more you can do that, get that out of the way so that then then you can enjoy the other, the other things. You are right, but it's, it's, it's that it's that sense of having faith in that. I can do that, that I have faith in myself. And I'm going to conferences that I'm going to be able to get over this hurdle, that I am going to be able to be up to this challenge that changes our perspective.
00:54:40:10 - 00:54:42:07
Cesar Marin
And now when.
00:54:42:09 - 00:55:23:10
Patricia Lindner
I love that. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences, your clients experiences. You were philosophical. deep dives. I totally enjoy talking to you. I can highly recommend reaching out to you. I can highly invite people to reach out to you because this is such a beautiful mixture of lightness and a deep dive. It is so colorful to talk to you and it gives you a different sort of direction.
00:55:23:10 - 00:55:50:18
Patricia Lindner
It opens up to much more, because you, you broaden the horizon of people. You are a wisdom keeper. And I'm honored that you were my guest today. and I'm really grateful for this wonderful conversation we had together. I hope that people really reach out to you and get to know you and learn about what you have to share.
00:55:50:20 - 00:55:56:11
Patricia Lindner
And yeah, what I can say now is thank you so much for being my guest.
00:55:56:13 - 00:56:17:16
Cesar Marin
Patricia. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for taking the time to let me share my story. Thank you for being so magnificent. Really. You're energy. You're just you're you're vibrational frequency. Did you give off the passion for what you're doing? You know, doing these designed charts to help people see things a little bit better. You helped me see you.
00:56:17:18 - 00:56:40:20
Cesar Marin
You cultivated wisdom in me today that was necessary. So I appreciate you. I see what you're doing. Like I said, thank you for being part of the best day of my life. I can't wait for us to have another discussion like this again. Whether I have you on my podcast or whether we do this again, I would love to continue this connection and and seeing how we help each other grow.
00:56:40:20 - 00:57:01:05
Cesar Marin
Right. I'm a big believer there's a great movie called Fantastic Fungi, and you can see fantastic fungi. You get a sense of how all these mushrooms connect to each other. And I'm a big believer that all humans were mushroom. And we make these connections. And when we make these can actually we try to figure out how we can make the connection stronger so that we can make each mushroom stronger and happier riding.
00:57:01:05 - 00:57:20:02
Cesar Marin
So I'm really excited to be producing this, to grow this connection, in this friendship and, and continue to see each other grow. I'm excited to see you drive, and I'm excited to see what you're doing. And I'm excited to see, you know, what's on the horizon for you. And and I'm sure it's just going to be incredibly wonderful things.
00:57:20:04 - 00:57:45:23
Patricia Lindner
Thank you. What a great analogy. That was beautiful. I want and need to wrap it up. And, thank you again. Thank you for being my guest on another amazing episode of magnificence, the one and only empowerment podcast that strikes a match and shines the light on the magnificence of my guests, and of course, on the magnificence of you.
00:57:46:01 - 00:57:47:03
Patricia Lindner
Bye for now.
00:57:47:03 - 00:58:21:01
Patricia Lindner
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Founder/Owner
Cesar Marin, founder and owner of Cultivating Wisdom, is a dynamic entrepreneur and esteemed former CNN producer. With a passion for empowering individuals through knowledge, he has successfully built a platform that promotes personal growth and enlightenment through the practice of Microdosing. Cesar's commitment to wisdom cultivation has made him a respected figure in the psychedelic industry. His visionary leadership continues to inspire and transform lives.